geneva 2 peace negotiations.

haven't been here in a while, a surprise is never bad, we are used to weatherforecasts at the start of the year, warm humid dry, all, here where we have the generators we could wish for more wind.

so geneva 2

i just start writing straight ahead, only because it will be very complicated to posit an original thought
and the matter is ofcourse thoroughly complicated i dare to go with so little immediate preparation.

i love that the notion is there we have to start a new thing, or a clean thing, and that is true, the negotiations must optimally express the central points.

a summary is that the syrians do want the regime to change, wich means assad to go, the former state to be replaced by something different, and influential positions and authoritys redistributed.

personally i fully support that, my conviction is no regime justifies torture, and certainly now no regime can still justify it by as much was known from syria three years ago.

i could elaborate, military means, targetting civilians, the inept and impossible casualty registers that are nevertheless maintained and profiled in as consistent as absurd style.
wich is a bad "omen", a bad calculus.

next there is assads position, i want everything you can have nothing, my people are scared, your people are scared, perhaps that works.

surely the definition will sound different in him, however the only way to consider that is to remove assad from the negation(equation). allawites, minoritys, kurds, moderate, and to a further if not that extremely pronounced extend, women and children, civilians, deserve each the safety and protection they need.

the nasty thing here is that the answer is "yes we know, that is not assad"

typically one fear is countered by the other the fear for injustice is countered by the fear for insecurity,

taking things back to the initial perspective, wich they from my point of view very much deserve. the torture, arrests. executions. in 100s and soon thousands hardly anyone in the whole of syria supported assad.

the poison of the terror tale took the usual age of time to rot in.
and so did the horror.

unfortunately we are not done here, erdogan is a complication for the kurds, and such may be polemic or maybe premature, what will surely pay a decisive role is the balance of power.

perhaps it would be nicer to say the balance of sympathisers, it goes too far.
i sympathise with assad, but with none of his state, i sympathise with Russia and i like putin, i don't sympathise with putin or his politics with syria, i sympathise with Obama, and i would want the outcome to be a conceivable succes for him, i trust their methodology and institutionalisms least.

it is the balance of power, or powers.

i have 'ahum' an unfortunate happy lot of experience with helping out balancing power, so i will once again develop some valuable insights,
good i just started writing;)

the basical point is you want to satisfy all. it goes so far that if the division and much to my personal regret i fear it should, in these nazions must take place, a kurdistan, a shia irak, a sunni irak, a sunni irak syria, a shia syria, a secular syria, and perhaps a tad more, it is worth contemplating rewarding the israelians forall the good germans did in the sense of handing them an obligatory palestinean israelian oblast.

perhaps it is not a good idea but the opportunity is relevant. it may be to early to risk iraks deplorable stability, it may be the most relevant part of the whole story.

i am sorry if it is. i have strongly voiced and hoped irak could be federal, that the cooperation and distribution of wealth would hold.

south sudan could become a reminder of the opposite.

in short you would "reward" each protagonist harbour and land in a negotiable yet at least attempted proportional manner. not half easy in syria.

israel i do not fear, i fear a croatisation of israel though. where it stretches coasts and takes people every resource to trade and the seas and oceans.

fortunately it has a coast. since there are at least three factions represented in syria for whom acces to the sea is relevant, and of life interest, it looks like the most problematical detail.

in case syria needs to try and stay whole, assad has to step up. an internationally organised media and campaign infrastructure set up , and elections held, (strongly and transparantly checked domestically)the different interests must be just equaled out, expressing i would think partnership, responsability , reason, the acknowledgement of the interests of the syrian people.

if they will, and if we will know in how far they tried, i wonder.

policing syria

how is syria doing?
like a test tube should..

it's incredible, mind boggling, what happens in syria. i have never seen a thing like it in my life. never.

how and what way i look at it, the nr of air missions, the extensity, the damage, lethality, the mess, the resistance, anything, it is sort of incomparable.

i think it beats every other conflict on the excentricity index.

the events are strange, the whole nation rises up peacefully, assad refuses to leave, why should he, europeans still have their medieval kings and queens.

next they resist the european violence, and still assad does not resign peacefully, the european example has taught him in the long run one can frame and fool a populace.

the usians meanwhile are jealous at the emirs' wealth. discrimination is a full-time job there.

the russians, chinese and iranians are desperate, who's next to fall for this mormon bigotry?

the population is caught in between.

and we, the europeans? all we can do is buy, buy the radioactive produce and hope noone will be running out of tungsten.

time to think about the children

it is usual to sacrifice the innocent, just to get a war going.

no matter i think martha wellhorn , names:S, a tad naive, she surely has influenced usian public opinion so much it is hard to distinguish where she is carbon copy and where she is original, this happened in vietnam,

refugees where made to have an ugly live, just so people would not want to be refugee.

as if anyone wanted that. yet the bombs still drove them out.

now we see outrages like: lebanon tells syrians they can only stay for two weeks, reminds me of how the dutch monarchy send the jews back into germany,

or turkey 'turkey does not have any more capacity' , preparing the turkish to project their own wealth gap on the syrian victims of a some dictator wannabe monarch.

so what is behind? simple, the many thousands in fear for their lives will add to the 'inhumane suffering in assads syria', because.. well they just can't escape..
it already happened that turkey send back 1000s.

and then? then it is time to blame assad..

oh i support obama, don,t go chemical or biological on them putin, uh assad,
i promise i cry wolf. then again, we will not get that verified will we? (in between a 1000 images i did not see a verified statement or count)

it remains obscure to me why assad still can't be droned.. well obviously they do not want the association on their own skins, the hill-billy,s.

elections? we see a lot of illegitimate (what a word) interference here, as much as the clandestine interference obviously from and too the con's.

similarly to that ron paul got no media attention whatsoever, so that nobody will have to wonder if he would get "his" votes, and similar to that i have not seen anyone in their sane minds support santorium or wosname,ron should have known , it happened exactly last time.

i still really wonder if it is obama who thinks he needs a timeout.
i could allow him so much if he had that in the open, not like ,they need the farce for me next, though it could be exciting to see if he, the big o, would live to see that better day , when the realitys of ecocatatstrophe will finally dismantle the fraudulent banking mechanism and squandering profits of ecologic destruction.

the people give small rise to worry.. what worrys me most is.. the blame game.

however if marihuana is legalised at least the people of the future have a chance not to be complicit in the pharmaceutical destruction, even if the sp projects the case like if they are addicted to cocaine.

(everything is ok if just it remains to blame)

but, it is simple, i made clear in the national elections of the dutch, not coincedentually ofcourse coinciding with the overly brazen fascist-wing campaigns of the billionaires, saving a dollar in a dime, would very probably have no better option than this: sp, and as it still not allowed a war, still not prescribed murder, disrespect and agression, nothing very much changed,

since i am the publisher, i wonder: what about the children?

and since i quite agree chaos is the creative principle, adriaan will have to wait,

but it is fascinating. the face of truth in the absence of fear, and how i would work hard but not to any sudden sacrifice, behind those fogs of war.

sp. let's not get deluded that we are hoovering, anywhere but in the public eye, the tv cameras.
to make a protest count we have to make it heard.

syria, why not

today i was thinking a bit over syria, yesterday also actually, it happens that anan is in moscou, and there is no coverage on aljazeera that would immediatly allow a contribution in that direction,
that besides

here it can be longer,

it's a fascinating subject and idea, russia and syria. like usually the new interface is everything but an improvement.

they are sort of neighbouring, russia and syria, perhaps not really, but the connection has allways been
laid. it is a bit weird. saddam was a baathsocialist and he killed 100000 communists.

and assad is a baath socialist and best friend with the russians, of old. if you judge by plane saddam also was, untill he swapped his fleets of migs for a few mirage's and a saab vickens.

these days every new player on the weaponsmarket wants to proof their newest anti air capacity, so noone is reluctant to give the stuf a test, from everywhere there is a great influx of weaponry into syria,
enough to fool a halfmillion soldiers, 16 million secretive atheists, a jew and 4 zoroastrians, all for the sake of what?

corruption of an unknown specimen. just like here or in israel you bet.
so that thing that has to change,
will not change in syria through assad, and hardly despite him, now russia, as we all know the greatest and most virtuous of all nations, has allways had the good sense to support a unitarian socialism  over the margins of sectarian divides,

and kicking the devils tail, it is time to ask :who is who, but that is taboo.

in syria, i suppose, taking all to few things into consideration, i hope for the us in a the vietnamese do not take there veils out on them as ours do on us. very integratedly , i mean, like if they show the modern face of gaza. thank you for the pretty sight.

so what will a  nation with only similar kinds of peoples end up through all this? everyone will die through pimples and rash for lack of vitamin d.

terrible, poor women, another backward step through the dark times of colonialism into a time of fearfull pseudo-pre-colonialism, the sheer sight.

so much is true, the muslims admitted it when we kicked them oput of spain, all the way to byzantium,
where they admitted it a bit less, sadly and unfortunately by the mere premonitions of a person like constantine, in this case, you can't blame the greek.

these people that have suffered so endlessly, untill the current day under the oppression of the romans and the crude invaders with their weird habits and dress, they took away all the colour from the sunni people.

uhm.. i guess not what i wanted to say, that is racist, a stupid norm, uhmm sorry again,

so talking russia,

why not consider honourfull defeat, evacuate all the alawites, and the turks kurds and christians, and give it to the usians?
why not?
once every threat of dissent is eliminated, no civil war will come to be, they can institute some sheiks, if that is what sunni do best, and uh eat burgers.

the real problem is mc borsjt was never a great hit,
nikeys are no real good either.

it seems to me changes of power are less hurtfull for ideology  when they are swift and easy, but i am not sure, ideology has all the time been the greatest victim.
i am not so sure that a regime contrary to the current would improve a great lot on the people.
why not ask assad to just step up, change plans,

russia has often made the point of selfdetermination, maybe it will finaly lead to results,  heh, self determination , assad determination, there is a solid difference.
i for my part do not honestly believe more then 1 in some 1000 children of a rather great statesman, serves to be a statesperson well, and not their spouses. logically, the more such prestige gets a hereditary custom the more solidly it is only one of luxury and candour.

who would believe he is the only great guy in syria? oh i bet you the next will be worse in a way.
because, after things settle, and assad moves, all the syrian jihadi analfabetists that assad surely took care there were plenty, will be thoroughly disappointed they can't have their own extra superhuge minarets with enormous loudspeakers, and they will fight over it, as if it is football, just like war.

oh yes and kofi anan is great, the rest are racists, assad and the opposition.

joo

syria unhappy aniversary

its been a year, since the protests started, and a year since i saw the eager hawks eyes fall on syria, it annoyed me to no end then and now. ghadaffi starting a military campaign, provoked the armed response the nato had for many years been anticipating..

in alternative circles the question was if i could not prevent ghadaffis fall and promote assads.

i wouldn't, basically because syria is more geostrategically relevant for peace in the world,
but ofcourse i could not speak my mind in that, so i explained that whatever the lack of difference between ghadaffi and assad, ghadaffi was not actually improving a lot and went to side with the the elites of the west and nato, and assad no matter he also had to leave at least did better than his dad.

really speaking my mind i could not, i know by now they are allways listening, what i really thought was : libya is to attractive for the corps, all that oil, and to easy. 3 million people.

syria would be a damned bit more massacrous, and not as much in the eye of the vultures.

but now i said that after all, and see it worked. noone is seriously convinced even the syrian uprising would perform any better than say badr in irak ( a terror campaign), or the loose contraption in libya. a show of backwardness.

that was a serious worry ofcourse also because even if it was kept of the screens i was well aware assad garnered 100000s of militant supporters. quite probably more than ghadaffi because tribal struggle is hardly comparable with the bitterness of religious vengeance.

so i was acting for waht i could, and did not want to show, against intervention in syria where the deathtoll would probably not stay under 2 million. or like in libya 200k.

not that i think syria would be worth 200000 dead. but had i believed it had worked at that unimaginable cost, i might not have protested so much.

not only is assad of the dynastic throne seater kind, syria does have a rather lousy name of reaction and repression. now that is partly due the bias of western monitoring, we don't hear the same about saudi arabia eg. allthough that can be said, but it is still annoying.

so all the year i have been hoping with all my heart he would wisen up and at least leave.
he didnt. actually he instigated a military offensive against the restive populace.
with terror campaign, arrests, torture, disappearings, revenge taking on familys and family homes, but

in the fog of war and nato interests not so much was said about arrests, i am quite sure they try to keep that tool of repression unblamished as much as they can.

what is perhaps worse is not much was said (after the first 3 months) about people disappearing after arrests.

only now, yesterday i read the nr of 50000 ppl arrested and disappeared. why no stress on that in our media? unfortunately it is simple, it is what they still have in mind for us. and like assad, if people get killed in the proces in a visible place, they would call us, the populace, terrorists.

because in between the considerations about arming groups, foreign influence and the people disappeared in israel, (or at least i dont understand what happened to all those arrested there, i once checked and since 1969 when they had some 70k official prisoners every year 3-5k were added, ending a tally of i think 9000 in 2011. so that was to weird for words, and appears to show the missing persons problem is regionally compounded)

that is what happened start off, and clichee as ever, the opposition were called 'terrorists'. wich they were not, only after many arrests, many people tortured, many disappeared, and many shot, they took up arms and at first started to, carefully, react.

that does not show the resistance is peacefull, according the gandhi's myth. neither was india. the peacefull take was a convenient ending basically. see we gave them what they want when they asked it how we want it to be asked.

they would never hand us aything for asking it peacefully. i have my experiences with activism, and socalled democracys have one excruciatingly exercised answer to it: repression.

including allways torture. usually in the light form of ' common' police harrasment and violence
but really the limit i have not seen. maiming 500 dutch or so was when i stopped counting the ill will of the repression against peacefull activity.

so i dont believe in that. i think the english left india because they got killed. by the hindu followers of kali, (the deity of occcupied populations) or by the sicks or just by their own indian housekeeperslaves.

but they don't want us to know, that you can only beat terror on equal footing. rather they have you believe a myth of peacefull resistance and whack on you for all the time still to come.

and so it is the same for assad in syria. just like turkey blames the kurds, spain the basques, and russia the chechnyans, usia the afghans in short everyone the civilians they like to kill, assad called the citizens: terrorists.

scary. normal.

but what is the realist outlook? for one thing the allawites and shias and the settled minority in charge of the reeling of the syrian republic, do fear the religious zealotry of the generally sunni resistance. that also explains why so many arab nations want to invade or arm the syrians. they are sunni if not in majority then at least as a ruling class. iran and nowadays irak, and syria are the exceptions.

it reminds me for no reason at all at the week before the european union became a transbordering reality, the week before we became one nation : european.
in the accolades about teh development guess what, we were served a logo , and guess what was in: (not in europe but in the logo) israel.

hadnt even been a signatory of teh treaty, so i raised great alarm, i dont want any arabs in my european federation, and that besides they are not in europe and not even bordering it.

so i realised it was to put up europeans against palestinians in that way facilitating those new arms industry markets of genociding muslims.

to my untold surprise it worked. hesitatingly european officials admitted israel had never been in the eu. had never signed a thing, and they would know of no great excuse, except that they like to feel the people of europe, to tell.

in hindsight i assume the treshold of hidden anti-semitism worked for me there. but i was so sick of the israeli manipulations of the day it didn't occur at that point. with so much they let pass how was i to assume antisemitism was a real thing in them.

it was a great surprise, but the logo was done with, changed, and israel became admittedly not a member. i also wish they'd never asked me about my opinion about turkey's joing the eu.

my opinion was : it was not in europe, and provocative, it was culturally alien (except perhaps the army) and seemed much ado with the western corps encrouchment of the middle eastern oil.

again in hindsight i wonder if i should have taken the risk and allowed the great landwar to happen. it is not that much different now.

what does it tell about syria?
well it tells in what i sympathise with assad, that the ones that shouted the most against him are quite ready and apt to cheat everyone and each (except me that is not as easily fooled) in europe.

a lonely position.

what else do i now think about syria? two things that are still important. the first is (and how heroic are the initial advanced guards?) that the resitance is willing to abolished armed struggle the moment assad leaves,(we dont hear that to often, maybe it is not the corps planning) the second, that the regime is not willing (well just like ours but on some scale these days) to give up violent repression and control. oh yes and that 50000 people went missing with indications of torture, for some reason islam apparently promotes torture. it is a very common thing in every theatre in the muslim world. irak , post war, i associate it with torture, mubarak? torture. ben ali? torture. ghadaffi , same, the new libya? torture.

oh i think locking women up and veiling them consists torture, so it simple to see how islamic folklores (aka sharia) promote torture and dehumanising treatment, they get it with the breastfeed so to say.

it is easy to understand. start or mid april there are supposed to be elections in syria. i would not hold my breath for surprises, it is not what elections are for.

you know what is the weirdest in this whole story? that when my main concern was geopolitical, and peace, and the end to perpetrating an ongoing attrocity of cold war with china and russia, and also to set free the yemenites, bahreinis, maroccans , saudis and other clients of the west, not only the ones not as cosy with capitalist theft and extortion through speculation and misinformation, would really chnange regime.

well they didnt, and maybe that is what keeps syria in limbo. set them free!
astarting with bradley manning. all my kind regards, and thx for the amazing influence wittingly or unwittingly attached to my thought.

cheer up syria, if the elections (need the time come) don't show a thing it is allways a good moment to rise again...

keep in mind, we are the borg , all your bases belong to us.

that will allways be with the military fighting a populace, no matter if it is internal or the nato doing the mudering.

the revolution will live, assad will leave, only... not yesterday ..



oh yes talking about unhappy, this made me cry, no words for it, and i would love to do to bush what he did to the forestpeople.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2012/03/201231483446653151.html

(in case of broken link the title is: Green: Death of the Forest.)

2012 and syrian powersharing everywhere

the history of syria is a troubled one. the old assad really had a bad name. as a baath socialist, and in the western view a dictator that did no better then the other muslim despots.

now the western views are very biased. many people in the west suffer poverty and injustice of many kinds. if you forget about the police state saddam took better care for his people.

yet the baathphilosophy and saddams own taste of power required strict ruling of the unruly sects.

a dogma, to go forward in the development of the arab culture. forward in modernisation and technology. and to work against narrowmindedness, born from ignorance, lack of education and colonialist manipulation, and against intolerance.

in name.. saddam killed 170000 ppl. then came in usia and the coalition of the killing, with already 100000s children dead through the sanctions and killed millions.

theres 6 million widows now in irak that were no widow before.

so what does syria want?

young assad did better than his dad. i am not sure, but so is my impression. overall level of wealth, or so you want consumption rose significantly, and despite contrary events in the region, lebanons invasion, the continuing hassle over israel, the muslim government of turkey, and the invasion of irak amongst things, that gave the syrian regime not allways the room it needed to struggle for that advance and progression.

nevertheless the regime has a rather bad name outside syria, and reknownedly also in syria.
perhaps not with everyone, but with many people. that is no news. i do not remember much of homs 1982, but the events were not allways pretty,

we may assume assad and his sympathisers , followers or the ones that just don't think the other party will be an advancement in fact feel rather desperate, for the first time in decades syria is running a bit and a major part of the populace rises, dreaming on the one hand of elementary freedoms, and on the other hand probably of a material advantage, an improvement of their position, in incomes, positions, lobbying, amd perhaps weirder things, sharia to force women to do work, and clergymen to explain how the rich do everything just fine.

not the most pleasant sight. as in libya there is every reason to worry about killings, vengeance and ongoing disagreement in the nation.

if people don't get together and find a decent way out it may become a biggest mess, in as far as we get informed about what syrians think (my opinion the whole approach i get from 'our' media is very onesided) it is obvious there is against, and "not with against."

i don't like compromise and i do not suggest it, i prefer to shape a workable situation.

with the protests supported by the traditional anti-social nations, usia, uk, europe and other capitalist 1% nations, ofcourse the capitalist vultures and bloodsuckers will be ready to rob the syrians. rob them of equality and in the long term consience, dignity. blast them with garbage adds. that make it acceptable an environmentally friendly person get gassed, almost driven over, exploited by high fees for public transport and registered with every step, and next fined.

after all you had been no danger to anyone.

like in syria immediatly a bank or something like it, will pop up and outsource the existing system. worse when foreign powers needed to play more of a role(sanctions). starving children is something capitalists think deserves a reward,

european common people nor usians can give the syrian people any guarantee it would not be worse.

simply because it probably would be worse. it is worse here, and it is getting only worse, for decades now.

whatever system syrians long for, it should be said it is not the capitalist wests system of expendable slaves and cheap labour. not the approach of maximal support for the rich and minimal options for the poor. not the mentality that allows the dutch parliament to declare a law to leave ppl dying in front of haospital is humane.

really it would be no help. they must find their own way out.

just like every sitting clique, baath and assad has the spoils. they do not want to loose any, but the consequence is allways they need and will. otoh if the impartido, the rebellion just goes for a single object, their succes, they will not succeed in a peacefull change at a great speed, and probably they will loose syria as they know it theirselves as well.

think of it like 20 years back in time. even if you win that 20-40% of suria 'rather has assad', and in fact 'rather has baath', no, in democratical terms there need not be a problem,

the real problem is the capitalist terms, i strongly suspect that the actual guarantee the regime seeks, and actually no other requests are ethic, 'permissible (dont know how to say it that word is a bit strong)'.

so these are requests for a public healthcare, a carefull approach with fuel consumption, federal say in landuse, democratical institutions throughout, educational and womens rights.

social and humanitarian guarantees, that if the opposition is not ready to meet show her as a tool,
not a tool of qatar, or israel or usia or uk and europe , not without some remarks,
'
it would be a tool of a small clique in syria that hopes to be the new winner of the spoils of war and power. (think "millionaire(its never theirs" refugees "reclaiming their palaces and servants ('property'))

before that i beg everyone to reconsider and find a way out that will leave everyone in dignity,
not talking the imams and presidents, just all the people that are secular, sunni or christian, allawite and maybe even kurd that don't feel safe by a shia renaisance and the shia.

it is a bit unreasonable to ask perhaps, in the light of the problems in irak, and the somewhat scary polarity in iran, unreasonable, yet realist,

if you don't prevail it, prevent it, step ahead of this blues, things will be worse.

i hope i have been clear and negotiations can start on this basis, that we can forfill the request for assad to stand down, and the request from the regime and its many believers(!)(,we have those everywhere), to set out reasonable, secular, internationally recognised principles of equality and human rights, to request a guarantee of a social policy that will not sell out the not to plentyfull richess and resource of syria, not 'privateer on the masses', will not start a new terror or a war for it, that will not lock 10000s up, like in irak or afghanistan, and that also will get done with repression.

if need be to the cost of a few years of consumption growth, you can survive without allways growing fatter,

gl.
i hope i will proudly look back at what i write, and everyone in syria with me can be proud,

better late than never (1)

onix

(1) why let the sanctions get worse?

oracle

i tried to get a picture of syria, don't like it, it is hard to get a good idea about it.

it seems like in libya, a fragile situation. i have heard only, with early on some hints of resistance, heard of non-violent protest.

what to think of that? knowing protest and police (let alone army) brutality i would actually say that is allways true.

protests are peacefull more so when they are about huge subjects, geopolitics, revolutions stuf like that. (i am somewhat from the school that holds through direct action you can claim back quite some rights and living space, if you do it smartly)

otoh.. would you resist the police at tahrir square, or the uniforms of tunesia (in whatever kinds they came, i think both), certainly , once there is the agreement that the violence from the police does not cross every boundary it meets or dreams up, a fierce riot is what does it.

is it? it looks like that. i know there is something to say for that in eg. petersburg even,

just the moment, to grab that, to once and for all overrule that desperate claim of authority
and the world changed for the better.

as soon as it takes longer it seems it gets more hurtfull. where is ivory coast now?
and what to think of bloody libya?
yemen?

i wonder if the israelis still remember how their protests made to be over housing costs , got politically abused. i do.. well did it help?

not so much. so i wonder about syria.

did you notice assad and erdogan's mouth look very much alike? maybe if they are family.

syria.. it is a political subject.
libya is: libya is oil. and oil, and uhm
oil. so libya is oil. (african oil)

syria is a bit of oil, enough for sth. like syria perhaps. and a lot of kurds. it is not easy to be a kurd. for a kurd you expect the turkish to be gratefull. we brought them civilisation you would think, we even brought them ataturk, without us, the world would have long stopped turning, at least in turkey.

turkish see that differently. i am not sure but i figure. i am not even sure why. i call it kemalism.

after there was this white bloke , that thought, lets do something odd with the relatively rich remnants of the ottoman, there came a lot of far more outrageous authoritarian people, but with less talent. kemalism.

so i like musi. just not his imams. goes with all, small wonder.

anyhow, for historical reasons syrians have very little to do with turkey. syria had just been conquered by the english, so it would be hurtfull for the ataturk national pride of the project of the time. syria is just 'off limit'.

i wudnt buy it, not even from musi, but, perhaps he wouldnt have mind it.

so turkey and syria are two different things. allthough you can't seperate easily between musi philosophy and kurdish identity.

i find that hard, i guess it's his european background.

nevertheless musi was exceptionally bad on the kurdish, typical selfhating american he be.
reminds me of mark levine.

so if we leave the foreign affairs out of the quotation, what we get is a nation of kurds that didn't have an ataturk yet.

unfortunately caliphates of the past have sought division between all the different kurds in eurasia. in syria there are at least 3 or so different races and religions of kurds.

kurdish kurdish, allahfiets, and a few. only i am not sure if they are sunni or shia, both i think.
oh yes and palestinian kurdish i suppose. and a few christian arabs, and arab jews.

but it is majorly the kurdish groups divided through the ottoman eras and english.

history of the region , famously known as the 'morning' or 'evening' land (it depended lattitude), has caused all those people to forget their true roots and history. it is very well possible kurdish people in either western syria or even southern pakistan have forgotten where they came from.

(the evening/morning land).

that is surely a problem.