since ages i know that unwanted opinions are hard to express on the internet, i started this whole blog for it. but being a man of teh people, and in love with humanity i keep trying to contribute a different sound on the internet times and again, if you don't try, you cannot say you have been censored.
so today i went to a dutch site with the pretence that people can contribute again, it is not a very pretty site to visit, but i know the better contributions got deleted before, so it means some people reading it would express more humane things tehn the usual misogenyc, misanthrope nazi shit that is allowed and welcomed by such media without (judging from the terrible phrases i regularly have to see) any criterion. so as long you spout filth, you are welcome to freedom of expression in netherlands.
what are not allowed are critics, or helping people remember what tricks have been played on them before. what is not allowed is to complain about the ruling class and their facilitation of the nazi sound, and hate.
well it means one thing only, we live in a nazi land, on a nazi planet, and there is no good prospects for a humane future. nevertheless, i will try to keep up the voice of reason, you cant say that when i remember my people how a prime minister kept the facts about afghanistan hidden for them for his own profit, i am wrong in blaming him for leading them into war.
teh ver more farfetched and idiotical nazicomments must thus be blamed not on a grow of that kind of hate possesed people, but mere censoring of the nice ones.
Saying things forgot about....
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Monday, November 9, 2009
crystal dawn

it took some time to find motivation to write anything again. actually i have another blog, where this post could find a place, perhaps, if the modern connotations had not been so strong.
like every day of the human year today is the aniversary of a grande and horrific event: "kristallnacht".
in a way it is surprising it sees such significance, one would think that the verbalisations of the nazi officials, the huge refugee problem that already became apparent in 1938 (the dutch gov. sending back jews into germany, and so did the polish), and the whole dependency of the german rhetorics on anti-judaism had made things obvious by then.
however eg. the new york times there is still excusing the culprit, in the person of goebbels those same days. nothing changed so much since then, nobody bothers about saudi arabia bombing the houthi's, or sri lanka extorting it's infernal wrath on the tamil. when it is about rwanda, there are no such descriptions, of historical events leading up and concerting a genocidal enterprise.
i think i could make an endless list of examples and it would be easy to fetch a mean joke about the actual relevance of the luxury shopping windows that gave it it's name.
but it fascinates me, somehow history takes it as an event of great relevance, wich it was not really, the plans were made, the animosity was fed, and the media collaborated, so much so that the whole actual name"kristallnacht" may well be the persistent name the nazi propaganda itself featured for the event.
not much can be done about that realistically, through the media, and later education the event with all it's sinister connotations has been made to known thus, and known by millions of people, and probably it is best understood when it stays that way.
so about the event, what remains is to realise it was some kind of a shock, in the western world, whilst being confronted however, the major powers stuck to appeasement policy's with germany,
and i think that we learned about it in history lessons for decades has to do with that collective feeling of guilt. people shortly afterthe war remembered this one event much better then much else that happened in the 1930's (let alone 1920's when the nazi's engaged in rather large sacle murder and intimidation). Because.. well because the allied powers were also against communists, because, they also liked to control their populace, because the last thing they wanted was sympathy with the victims of reactionairy's.
and.. like i tried to show with the few examples, nothing really much changed. control of the population, and not having to answer painfull questions are still priority of the states, the nation-states.
actually when afterwards we name the nazi's barbarians, i think rightfully so although it is an insult for the average barbarian, what we forget is how the european media neglected the pligh of the jews, and turned a blind eye on a fascist regime perpetrating the most outrageous things in what was considered one of our civilised nations and capitals.
iotw for contend the other states were just as barbarian. wich is never been more evidently then when sending back the refugee's, but shows best perhaps in their treatment of the many incidents and events leading up to racist extremes of that period.
now "kristallnacht" is a nice point for a case study in this, it shows better then anything else the complicity of the other ruling classes with the german establishment.
allthough the mere context makes a proof rather unneeded, the whole story does have a hero,
his picture is on this article, and.. , and.
the boy in question was the pretext for kristallnacht, in response to his family suffering in the hands of german and a collaborating polish authority's he shot a nazi representative in paris.
for me he is a hero, if people had listened, had taken his life and identity as serious as the first next nazi they met, the whole second world war might not have happened, and surely not have went as easily for the germans, it could also have meant that 1938 had been a turning point in the tolerance for nazism.
unfortunately, that was not the case, the foreign powers proved shocked, that someone with a nazifunction was targetted. the 100s and more dead before that were not weighted, the concentration camps not considered a natural cause for the event, apparently, the european powers were according the anti judaism that manifested in germany so clearly.
(that is my conclusion when looking at the whole period not only this case)
even the jewish counsels accorded the nazi poilicy's, hershel was considered a 'bad guy'.
the jewish counsels actually kept up such arbitrary position throughout the whole period.
only after the war, in word and deed every inch of jewish accomplishment was tainted with loud vocalisations against those events.
for me a proof that no ruling class whatsoever can be trusted to care about the wellbeing (or even lives) of it's dependencee's.
although hershell did not manage to kill an important person, and the person in question was perhaps even liquidated by the same nazi's during transport to germany, he did the one thing every responsible person should, try to stop, even kill the nazi's before they start massacring
to no end.
so i admire him, he did the right thing, and for that was punished by infammation, by the ones that would later sacrifice millions of soldiers and civilians to end on top.
if you want to know about integrity of any ruling class, of their support of the resistance of people against repression , watch hershell grynszpan, and hope you may become like him.
" I must protest so that the whole world hears my protest, and that I will do. "
i can still hear him.
Sunday, October 18, 2009
blasted rights
what i feel hurt is hard to describe,
i have felt hurt before, like this, i can feel it in my shoulders, and the sides of my neck feel tense when i try to write. i take a lot of time to tell you this, and my sides, my cheeks, my heart my whole chemical system reacts.
~someone saving my heart here:)~
like i have been crying. and more strange feelings, of narrowness and confining numbness,
i have it on a couple of occasions, but is typical it occurs when i try to write now.
saltI, at some point. the first attack on irak, the creation of the balkan war, brutality in police
and contempt for the law in politics and justice.
trigger that feeling , that make me wonder how we can all escape fascism. the police states that noone wants, and the exploitation through unconstrained financial malversations in the name of capitalist economy(2)(3)
Do you know the word criminalisation?
it is a procedure that can continue for decades, or longer, i don't know. It means to put people in problems, give them faked (and when they get angry real) charges, and tabloidisation.(4)
ofcourse political european fascism these days is semantically non-anti-semitic, but it is the policy's for the people that are anyhow their victims that decide wether they are fascist, oppressive, abusive, and a liar. that need not be heard.
but that is beside the point, because political people are far beneath rights. rights are over the people and people over the rights for that, but political people have a different position with rights and law.
they are far beneath it. law is just and rightfull, housing is a human right.
change is not continuing fascist processes of criminalisation and cowardish backing for nazification that is actually only an extra illusion before admitting the complicity.
(1) why feel hurt through a politics that depends on profiling extremist authorianism.
(2) a few enemy's of the people allways manifest as different games or party's, but condensely their aspects are interdependend components of this arms-trading consumer-capture complex.
it is still the militairy industrial complex. next eg. the usians have a lack(x) in aprehension for
moral aspects in arms industry (and pharmaceutical, bio engineering etc..) in many positions.
this as a result of tabloidisation , so a deep sigh here. anno 2009 of tabloidisation.
(3) empty building 'instead of human rights' to serve a next hypocrit crisis.
(4) and a lot more problems and negative publicity(a). Including endless cases of contempt for the law by any court or jurisdiction. a lot of violence, including rampant escalation, provocation, malversating interference. this is not only a sane tolerant people. we have an active class of oppressors. don't even want to touch on the subject of social function or political motivation. it gets surrealistic when you see the exploit. what an exploit of the masses trauma's.
it is the oppressors telling the people of peace they have managed to make people tolerate hate,
believe hate even. But hah, you should feel the people. 160m or 16b
(a)there is different effects of tabloidisation eg.; negative, extra, etc..sick feeling
i have felt hurt before, like this, i can feel it in my shoulders, and the sides of my neck feel tense when i try to write. i take a lot of time to tell you this, and my sides, my cheeks, my heart my whole chemical system reacts.
~someone saving my heart here:)~
like i have been crying. and more strange feelings, of narrowness and confining numbness,
i have it on a couple of occasions, but is typical it occurs when i try to write now.
saltI, at some point. the first attack on irak, the creation of the balkan war, brutality in police
and contempt for the law in politics and justice.
trigger that feeling , that make me wonder how we can all escape fascism. the police states that noone wants, and the exploitation through unconstrained financial malversations in the name of capitalist economy(2)(3)
Do you know the word criminalisation?
it is a procedure that can continue for decades, or longer, i don't know. It means to put people in problems, give them faked (and when they get angry real) charges, and tabloidisation.(4)
ofcourse political european fascism these days is semantically non-anti-semitic, but it is the policy's for the people that are anyhow their victims that decide wether they are fascist, oppressive, abusive, and a liar. that need not be heard.
but that is beside the point, because political people are far beneath rights. rights are over the people and people over the rights for that, but political people have a different position with rights and law.
they are far beneath it. law is just and rightfull, housing is a human right.
change is not continuing fascist processes of criminalisation and cowardish backing for nazification that is actually only an extra illusion before admitting the complicity.
(1) why feel hurt through a politics that depends on profiling extremist authorianism.
(2) a few enemy's of the people allways manifest as different games or party's, but condensely their aspects are interdependend components of this arms-trading consumer-capture complex.
it is still the militairy industrial complex. next eg. the usians have a lack(x) in aprehension for
moral aspects in arms industry (and pharmaceutical, bio engineering etc..) in many positions.
this as a result of tabloidisation , so a deep sigh here. anno 2009 of tabloidisation.
(3) empty building 'instead of human rights' to serve a next hypocrit crisis.
(4) and a lot more problems and negative publicity(a). Including endless cases of contempt for the law by any court or jurisdiction. a lot of violence, including rampant escalation, provocation, malversating interference. this is not only a sane tolerant people. we have an active class of oppressors. don't even want to touch on the subject of social function or political motivation. it gets surrealistic when you see the exploit. what an exploit of the masses trauma's.
it is the oppressors telling the people of peace they have managed to make people tolerate hate,
believe hate even. But hah, you should feel the people. 160m or 16b
(a)there is different effects of tabloidisation eg.; negative, extra, etc..sick feeling
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
rwanda sociocide
hutu oral history
one day the tutsi's came,
(a white cause was to blame)
they lied and
then they beat us
then the white man came, and they
and the tutsis beat us.
simple.. and so on and so on.. untill 1994
okay in 1994.... the tutsi's had many police car
many gun's
helicopter's
machine gun's
normal cars
and
beat the hutu..
can you still follow the story?
all kinds of discriminating laws (truely anchored in colonialist inheritage)
were in place..
nothing special so think the trade partners,
it's like that in kenia isn't it?
and we try to make it like that in south africa.
soo one day through the rise of radio.. and newspapers
and parliaments and as south africa shook of racism,
people shook of racism,
and they knew no way then to kill all the racists that had allways been killing them,
actually,
this is why they say: the revolution kills her own children
but not many people feel it that way.
and yes the first moment it happens, the western world, that has the biggest nukes and tanks
doesn't realise what is happening (oh it is a revolution killing her children)
what was happening is that every tutsi in the whole of rwanda appeared as one that was thoroughly inbred not to ever respect a hutu, that each of them would after be out for revenge,
so many of the tutsi were dangerous to every individual hutu
discriminate against every individual hutu
say that they are better in evrything, and the hutu's very bad,
that it all went wrong,
now one more of the hutu is captured and on trial,
someone that choose his people over the tutsi people,
an intelligent man.
sometimes in such a case, experience tells us, it is better to kill children as well..
otherways foreigners will come and bomb all the nation
to give it to the children, again
so maybe you need an intelligent man
to take care that the tutsi's that will probably
be put back in a position of power
have something to fight over
instead of fighting hutu's
maybe
some hutu's will that way survive
to have it different, we will have to change something about money
you can't change anything about revolution,
because revolution can only live up to existing justice
or create her own.
one day the tutsi's came,
(a white cause was to blame)
they lied and
then they beat us
then the white man came, and they
and the tutsis beat us.
simple.. and so on and so on.. untill 1994
okay in 1994.... the tutsi's had many police car
many gun's
helicopter's
machine gun's
normal cars
and
beat the hutu..
can you still follow the story?
all kinds of discriminating laws (truely anchored in colonialist inheritage)
were in place..
nothing special so think the trade partners,
it's like that in kenia isn't it?
and we try to make it like that in south africa.
soo one day through the rise of radio.. and newspapers
and parliaments and as south africa shook of racism,
people shook of racism,
and they knew no way then to kill all the racists that had allways been killing them,
actually,
this is why they say: the revolution kills her own children
but not many people feel it that way.
and yes the first moment it happens, the western world, that has the biggest nukes and tanks
doesn't realise what is happening (oh it is a revolution killing her children)
what was happening is that every tutsi in the whole of rwanda appeared as one that was thoroughly inbred not to ever respect a hutu, that each of them would after be out for revenge,
so many of the tutsi were dangerous to every individual hutu
discriminate against every individual hutu
say that they are better in evrything, and the hutu's very bad,
that it all went wrong,
now one more of the hutu is captured and on trial,
someone that choose his people over the tutsi people,
an intelligent man.
sometimes in such a case, experience tells us, it is better to kill children as well..
otherways foreigners will come and bomb all the nation
to give it to the children, again
so maybe you need an intelligent man
to take care that the tutsi's that will probably
be put back in a position of power
have something to fight over
instead of fighting hutu's
maybe
some hutu's will that way survive
to have it different, we will have to change something about money
you can't change anything about revolution,
because revolution can only live up to existing justice
or create her own.
Monday, October 12, 2009
afghanipakistan
yesterday i finished an old draft, called afghanistan, but for some reason i cannot reset the date. so if you didn't notice, it is at 24 january 2009.
why not... pakistan,
today i read hizbul al islam is the western allie for south somalia.. because (look it is not my idea to make it this ridiculous) it is now "al queida representative in somalia'.
apparently there used to be another thus labelled..
when usia talks about hizbul in lebanon or palestine.. oj,oj.. meany beastyness nastism is all they have to offer.. but here..
soo, once again a serious problem with many important causes and roots is al kaidaished.
al queda is an usian invention, the first mention of the name is in cia documents about setting up terror attacks to blame cuba. like hamas is first mentioned in israeli notitions.
however it seems it has been drawn from the cupboard more recently then the cuba crisis,
and.. since now we have to read that word in the papers daily, it better gets an explanation.
so: what is an al quada??
firstly every movement of people against repression is often called the "base". like in grass'roots'.
as soon as you want to talk about basic matters, you are 'an al quaida'. the animal cruelty al kaidah, that is against torture of animals, the environment al kajda that thinks a healthy environment is a human right, the baskish al quaeda that speaks baskish, the kurdish al quadai,
that now has a safe haven in irak finally, the irish al queda that is a defaitist movement anouncing peace every 3 months, the myanmar al quajda that wants either uniforms or macdummolds, whenever you are something against it, it is basically the base of your offence.
basic.. al quaidah.
there is a famous writer, who invented an al qaida, "the foundation" that would try to take care for humankind.. for this militarist / capitalist system drives her to the deepest spaces in the universe, but in the end.. they succeed, the ideal human is born, (or perhaps they had a better objective)
I think it is not a coincedence cia took this name to paint an enemy.. the vision of asimov is very powerfull and indeed a organisation that would persecute ideal targets, their greatest fear.
so there you have "al quaidah" or? or should we really make the distinction tribalistically, the south somali al queda, the north somalian el qaida, the east somalian al koueidah. etc???
and when we want to throw a bomb, we just throw it somewhere, and someone would allways be hit that does something capitalism doesn't like.. usually people with ideals are on the receiving side of bombs.
why not... pakistan,
today i read hizbul al islam is the western allie for south somalia.. because (look it is not my idea to make it this ridiculous) it is now "al queida representative in somalia'.
apparently there used to be another thus labelled..
when usia talks about hizbul in lebanon or palestine.. oj,oj.. meany beastyness nastism is all they have to offer.. but here..
soo, once again a serious problem with many important causes and roots is al kaidaished.
al queda is an usian invention, the first mention of the name is in cia documents about setting up terror attacks to blame cuba. like hamas is first mentioned in israeli notitions.
however it seems it has been drawn from the cupboard more recently then the cuba crisis,
and.. since now we have to read that word in the papers daily, it better gets an explanation.
so: what is an al quada??
firstly every movement of people against repression is often called the "base". like in grass'roots'.
as soon as you want to talk about basic matters, you are 'an al quaida'. the animal cruelty al kaidah, that is against torture of animals, the environment al kajda that thinks a healthy environment is a human right, the baskish al quaeda that speaks baskish, the kurdish al quadai,
that now has a safe haven in irak finally, the irish al queda that is a defaitist movement anouncing peace every 3 months, the myanmar al quajda that wants either uniforms or macdummolds, whenever you are something against it, it is basically the base of your offence.
basic.. al quaidah.
there is a famous writer, who invented an al qaida, "the foundation" that would try to take care for humankind.. for this militarist / capitalist system drives her to the deepest spaces in the universe, but in the end.. they succeed, the ideal human is born, (or perhaps they had a better objective)
I think it is not a coincedence cia took this name to paint an enemy.. the vision of asimov is very powerfull and indeed a organisation that would persecute ideal targets, their greatest fear.
so there you have "al quaidah" or? or should we really make the distinction tribalistically, the south somali al queda, the north somalian el qaida, the east somalian al koueidah. etc???
and when we want to throw a bomb, we just throw it somewhere, and someone would allways be hit that does something capitalism doesn't like.. usually people with ideals are on the receiving side of bombs.
Friday, October 9, 2009
nobel prices
it is not that i think i deserve none, what were they called? mdd's mcc's? the physical price, these i admire.
the chemical price was misplaced, that could only have been a medical price i think. ribosomes? wtf, does it get more biological?
or maybe that was medical after all, can't remember the chemical one then. mcc's that transmit photon into date are chemical to an extend. anyway, the german that double-charged all existing battery's and accu's got his share to , some years ago.
okay that was a chemical price right? mh.. it's pretty physical.. so 7 molecules is chemical, don't some have circular chromosomes and all spiral?
bother aproximations of infinity. 1 photon solar cells.
or perhaps (why not) that is aproximately. next we get charged particle disturbance and we can measure the photon of tomorrow.
it is anyhow wonderfull, so a photon travels aproximately faster then light, and it crosses a scale that is to small for most particles to notice, what is actually smaller? a photon or the vacuum in a H atom or is the vacuum in an U atom actually smaller? maybe it is like with planets, and the vacuum get's smaller over time.
uhm i guess i was supposed to talk about obama here..
nobel peace price, together with Meir, Herschell, Ben gurion, Ohlmert, Abbas, Arafat, the rest of the usian presidents, the ones of egypt since 1945, and aung see kyung, the widow of the prince on the white horse, or?
she's in the news as well, 'coincedentually' today. (1)
must say i witnessed she was peacefull twice, i am not rili interested in her, can't help it, i don't like myths, i don't like capitalist throne candidates, got to distrust them long ago.i don't like usian interference, walt disney politics.
ofcourse like any other militairy rulers the generals in myanmar look like a succesfull circus of clowns. i allways think that when i see the public expressions of militairy rule. yet people with necktie's look horrible as well. obama's necktie's.. aung see kyung ever drafted herself a 10000 euro suit?
did you know neckties originate from the times of the hashashins? that they were a means of escape from liquidation ,the venge of the emperor?
seems usefull, doesn't it?
mm has been usefull a few times in this life. i love obama's neckties, he can wear them with pride. neckties are like a self acclaimed medal, and these days they sometimes come without a belly.
putin's neckties.. oh that's got nothing to do with nobel peace of course.. putin.
ahmedinajad's lack of necktie's? lovely. but i think his skirts are to nice to go with a suit.
fatigue's i like. the picture of chavez(modest, red decorum) or fidel(fatigue's) is not ugly to me.
ofcourse obama doesn't get a peace price for the necktie he wore in japan, (he anyhow opts for imho solidly horrible colour blue a lot),i think he get's it for the missile shield, this is europe after all, many here want peace, cooperation and reconciliation with russia.
or.. or.. is it a another cover-up-israel-war peace price? an exploit of the credibility he earns? a way to tell us that starving gaza for another 40 years to come is good? i don't know about that. i fear it matters a lot, the best reason to give him that price is after all publicitory, we need the disarmament and cooperation, a heap of things are running better then before, and people need to believe that. it must be tempting to reap a profit there.
(1) perhaps i actually think so many 1000's people in a nation deserve one, there is allways a few to deserve it better, so i dislike these choices of the elites.
the chemical price was misplaced, that could only have been a medical price i think. ribosomes? wtf, does it get more biological?
or maybe that was medical after all, can't remember the chemical one then. mcc's that transmit photon into date are chemical to an extend. anyway, the german that double-charged all existing battery's and accu's got his share to , some years ago.
okay that was a chemical price right? mh.. it's pretty physical.. so 7 molecules is chemical, don't some have circular chromosomes and all spiral?
bother aproximations of infinity. 1 photon solar cells.
or perhaps (why not) that is aproximately. next we get charged particle disturbance and we can measure the photon of tomorrow.
it is anyhow wonderfull, so a photon travels aproximately faster then light, and it crosses a scale that is to small for most particles to notice, what is actually smaller? a photon or the vacuum in a H atom or is the vacuum in an U atom actually smaller? maybe it is like with planets, and the vacuum get's smaller over time.
uhm i guess i was supposed to talk about obama here..
nobel peace price, together with Meir, Herschell, Ben gurion, Ohlmert, Abbas, Arafat, the rest of the usian presidents, the ones of egypt since 1945, and aung see kyung, the widow of the prince on the white horse, or?
she's in the news as well, 'coincedentually' today. (1)
must say i witnessed she was peacefull twice, i am not rili interested in her, can't help it, i don't like myths, i don't like capitalist throne candidates, got to distrust them long ago.i don't like usian interference, walt disney politics.
ofcourse like any other militairy rulers the generals in myanmar look like a succesfull circus of clowns. i allways think that when i see the public expressions of militairy rule. yet people with necktie's look horrible as well. obama's necktie's.. aung see kyung ever drafted herself a 10000 euro suit?
did you know neckties originate from the times of the hashashins? that they were a means of escape from liquidation ,the venge of the emperor?
seems usefull, doesn't it?
mm has been usefull a few times in this life. i love obama's neckties, he can wear them with pride. neckties are like a self acclaimed medal, and these days they sometimes come without a belly.
putin's neckties.. oh that's got nothing to do with nobel peace of course.. putin.
ahmedinajad's lack of necktie's? lovely. but i think his skirts are to nice to go with a suit.
fatigue's i like. the picture of chavez(modest, red decorum) or fidel(fatigue's) is not ugly to me.
ofcourse obama doesn't get a peace price for the necktie he wore in japan, (he anyhow opts for imho solidly horrible colour blue a lot),i think he get's it for the missile shield, this is europe after all, many here want peace, cooperation and reconciliation with russia.
or.. or.. is it a another cover-up-israel-war peace price? an exploit of the credibility he earns? a way to tell us that starving gaza for another 40 years to come is good? i don't know about that. i fear it matters a lot, the best reason to give him that price is after all publicitory, we need the disarmament and cooperation, a heap of things are running better then before, and people need to believe that. it must be tempting to reap a profit there.
(1) perhaps i actually think so many 1000's people in a nation deserve one, there is allways a few to deserve it better, so i dislike these choices of the elites.
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climate
the media have it the poor nations want "cash" to develop sustainable economy.
if, big *IF* that is about cash, and not funding or refunding, that is a definite no.
experience tells us underdeveoped nations leaders can be trusted with a whole lot of things, but not with "cash"
it is not about cash, it is about scientific exchange, exchange of components, funding of the developments,.. overhere. and support in proven projects (wich could be funding research eg.)overthere.(1)
cash is out of the question. it would be a complete waste and mount up to actual bribery and corruption when the resources continue to be gladly plundered.
so not cash. evrything else, including forms of subsidizing, and financial compensation (but accountable, whence preferably afterwards or in the proces) it is all necessary, but not "cash".
refunding *guarantee's* (that can't be kidnapped with eg. "sanctions", no.) solid guarantee's, ok?
it is hard to estimate what green research can be done productively in poorer and less developed nations, so the technological exchange must be on a non-profit bases,
it will also be hard to find criteria.
for example, for a greener environment almost every soil and geology needs research as to how to best use and ecologically enrich it. this must be held in the perspective of what people actually do with the land, and what they actually develop in the nation. such research can better be done natively. if not only for language.
(2)
otoh in many such nations the attitudes may have to change first. in many nations goes that the poorer, the huger the distance between classes. research done by people with an elitist mind, in area's like these, is almost completely useless.
so to fund research we will have to apply , and get it up to, standards.
both financially, and socially, perhaps even sociographically.
btw in many nations there is not even something like garbage services. especially in remote areas.so there will need to be money (and transparency) to set it up. However the long term effect of such action is allways positive, and by recycling, fractioned collection, (and:P for the capitalist gospel, employment) the cost are not actually very high.(3)
it has been a long time proposed the ecological costs should be in the price to buy a product, since the system allways opted not to, the money will need to be made available now, afterwards, that is also natural.
it is also something we cannot tax other nations, when we ourselves never had to pay that extras. they just would continue to not develop. also not environmentally develop, wich from our unprepared platform appears more costy.
i doubt it is tho. the recycling value of materials, btw. that are used to improve emissions in less developed nations, would remain with the rich nation that offers them. they can then kind of be leased, and like with not providing "cash", it is a measure against corruption.
don't go.. but how can you say poor nations are corrupt? i know because if it is about environment, most all rich people think/thought it is okay to be corrupt, and, because rich people in poor nations time and again have proven to only care about theirselves.
we don't care more, but with a more educated and cultured population base, it is much harder for officials to repress people, and acces public funds.
(not that it doesnt happen on an appaling scale, that would would cover whole underdeveloped nations budgets.)
it is only, i propose measures that would cause something to happen.
i don't distrust one more then the other, i basically distrust all elites.
"for what they are worth".
to examplify, management, heads of resource states, cheney, a lot of elitists in the rich world, take more money then similar people in poor nations. ofcourse such people greed is equal everywhere, so by providing money you would achieve exactly nothing. they all want to be similarly rich as an oil sheik, bill gates, or the head of the next state before something goes to ecology. we call that in dutch: a bottomless pit.
(1) we have a meritocrat option there, and could provide a minimal scientific staff to foreign university's, make it an educational project, make the contacts, and control the funding.
(2) famously traditional , often even almost forgotten) strategy's are often the most promising. and can reveal surprising insights in many other areas.(food, health, climate, history, language etc.) it is probably a good idea to promote and combine such research. these make for not to bad science work btw. a lot of interviewing, fotographing, video can be used, the reward to uncover your own region's particularity's and the satisfaction that more of the knowledge base history and language get preserved. this can also be done in an educational manner,
both organisationally and socially.
(3) i am considering vast rural extends and villages that for example get payed for (some of) their recycling efforts. at least we would recover many more valuable fractions relatively easily. special efforts must be made for chemicals and central collection of the remainder of waste.
if, big *IF* that is about cash, and not funding or refunding, that is a definite no.
experience tells us underdeveoped nations leaders can be trusted with a whole lot of things, but not with "cash"
it is not about cash, it is about scientific exchange, exchange of components, funding of the developments,.. overhere. and support in proven projects (wich could be funding research eg.)overthere.(1)
cash is out of the question. it would be a complete waste and mount up to actual bribery and corruption when the resources continue to be gladly plundered.
so not cash. evrything else, including forms of subsidizing, and financial compensation (but accountable, whence preferably afterwards or in the proces) it is all necessary, but not "cash".
refunding *guarantee's* (that can't be kidnapped with eg. "sanctions", no.) solid guarantee's, ok?
it is hard to estimate what green research can be done productively in poorer and less developed nations, so the technological exchange must be on a non-profit bases,
it will also be hard to find criteria.
for example, for a greener environment almost every soil and geology needs research as to how to best use and ecologically enrich it. this must be held in the perspective of what people actually do with the land, and what they actually develop in the nation. such research can better be done natively. if not only for language.
(2)
otoh in many such nations the attitudes may have to change first. in many nations goes that the poorer, the huger the distance between classes. research done by people with an elitist mind, in area's like these, is almost completely useless.
so to fund research we will have to apply , and get it up to, standards.
both financially, and socially, perhaps even sociographically.
btw in many nations there is not even something like garbage services. especially in remote areas.so there will need to be money (and transparency) to set it up. However the long term effect of such action is allways positive, and by recycling, fractioned collection, (and:P for the capitalist gospel, employment) the cost are not actually very high.(3)
it has been a long time proposed the ecological costs should be in the price to buy a product, since the system allways opted not to, the money will need to be made available now, afterwards, that is also natural.
it is also something we cannot tax other nations, when we ourselves never had to pay that extras. they just would continue to not develop. also not environmentally develop, wich from our unprepared platform appears more costy.
i doubt it is tho. the recycling value of materials, btw. that are used to improve emissions in less developed nations, would remain with the rich nation that offers them. they can then kind of be leased, and like with not providing "cash", it is a measure against corruption.
don't go.. but how can you say poor nations are corrupt? i know because if it is about environment, most all rich people think/thought it is okay to be corrupt, and, because rich people in poor nations time and again have proven to only care about theirselves.
we don't care more, but with a more educated and cultured population base, it is much harder for officials to repress people, and acces public funds.
(not that it doesnt happen on an appaling scale, that would would cover whole underdeveloped nations budgets.)
it is only, i propose measures that would cause something to happen.
i don't distrust one more then the other, i basically distrust all elites.
"for what they are worth".
to examplify, management, heads of resource states, cheney, a lot of elitists in the rich world, take more money then similar people in poor nations. ofcourse such people greed is equal everywhere, so by providing money you would achieve exactly nothing. they all want to be similarly rich as an oil sheik, bill gates, or the head of the next state before something goes to ecology. we call that in dutch: a bottomless pit.
(1) we have a meritocrat option there, and could provide a minimal scientific staff to foreign university's, make it an educational project, make the contacts, and control the funding.
(2) famously traditional , often even almost forgotten) strategy's are often the most promising. and can reveal surprising insights in many other areas.(food, health, climate, history, language etc.) it is probably a good idea to promote and combine such research. these make for not to bad science work btw. a lot of interviewing, fotographing, video can be used, the reward to uncover your own region's particularity's and the satisfaction that more of the knowledge base history and language get preserved. this can also be done in an educational manner,
both organisationally and socially.
(3) i am considering vast rural extends and villages that for example get payed for (some of) their recycling efforts. at least we would recover many more valuable fractions relatively easily. special efforts must be made for chemicals and central collection of the remainder of waste.
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However sometimes i screw up.
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