Saying things forgot about....

Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008 year of the censors

Don't be surprised. It's the general trend. So 2008 will be a more censored year then the year before. election haze. We will be lured by election hazes more then ever, the capitalist system, the corporates are trying to sell campaigns for democracy. only strong action by the populaces offers a chance on somewhat representative "results" tho. People are very easy to believe.

A recent example is the "speedboat incident" another insignificant if even real incident that will take a prominent place in wikipedia-en.(most probably)
for one thing the us navy said it had video.. but released scenes only later.
That beside i have a slight suspicion boats are around there all the time, and this time may have thrown sigaret buds in the water?

It's just an example how hardly noteworthy and possibly framed incidents, the viddeo is not very convincing, are abused to influence one of these supposedly 'significant' 'democratic' elections. If you keep an eye open in the current trend of stressing elections in the media and reward disproved results 'incidents' will be more often witnessed. Usually it is the timing that tells the character of the incident.

For example: the incident in pakistan today. Why was it timed there? was the man exploding before the lawyers arrived purposedly?? yes. most probably, if the current version is true (he didn't crash a motorbike in a truck, and he was not on foot),
but arrived on motorbike (largely undamaged) , and ran into a crowd of policeman,
he deliberately targetted the police, or perhaps the cops. However the timing then suggest an alliance with the gathering of lawyers. Not improbable, the anti- musharaf lawyers do tend to democracy perhaps, but tend to be the ones with the conservative aproach, logically speaking, from our point of view, because much of the legal dispute is focussed around the implementation of sharia, or it's veritability contrary to the juridical system.(iafaik)
there is the usual natural alliance of this 'taliban' with the more libertarian forces ofcourse, because both are repressed. However i have not discovered a party in pakistan politics intend on serving the populace (as opposed to eg. their purses), or it must be musharafs. So i kind of exclude the really progressive forces in pkaistan of teh violence. (perhaps not justified, pronouncedly so if the pakistan army itself would be known inside pakistan to use means equaly awfull, (practically , the same). If all 3 recent attacks would be framed by musharaf he certainly hates the cops. Not the most fearsome aspect a dictator could have.

A enough about it.. i could tell more but this is about 2008, not about 8-01-2008
First time i got the numbers riot the first time in the year i think. Poverty got its needs. uhm, part of the nr's.

Economy of this reality depends on cooperation. There have been and , most probably are to be, rather large disasters. Their results we could use to set up something like a patchwork disaster service. I fear they will not be without work in a decade.
Perhaps its a nice replacement for all these armys.

Disasters tend to be survivable, recent floods not only in mid america have prooven that with support many people can be saved from physical harm. It is a nice precursor to ecological landuse that these people need to be provided and resettled.

One thing we may still have to account for is droughts. However both the need for reforestation and the need for water can easily be solved through ecological
planologics. They would have been solved if we had started this worldwide 30 years before.

Forestfires will be inevitable, as a result everywhere were dry circumstances occur uggly lanes through the areas must be realised wich is practical with woodcut but does not at all relate to the corporate models of landuse..

Generally crops can be climate independend. Certain crops, and certain varietys of crops stand a climate, eg. the dutch, better. that besides some stand rain better and some drought, by producing a part of the food along these lines the world could build up much needed resources relatively cheaply and at the least ecological expense. It is also a better guarantee to misfortune. If i understand correctly everywhere on the planet foodprices have been on the rise.

Birth reduction. At least under circumstances of war the arguments are pretty simple.
An adult relation with other nations means that you have a productive birth-control
program.(joke),

Stopping clichees. There are to many evident clichee, even i am to blame, i try not to be clichee wich is why i know. People urgently need to stop talking of other people as tribes , religions, etc.political terms are the only really acceptable ones
for an adult discussion of politics. (i predict billions will fale miserably in this aspect this year;)That means you can say capitalist, socialist, or whatever you want, african unionist, unionist soberly, libertarian or whatever. But if you take a standing point like a kapitalist pig would somebody may call you a kapitalist pig.

Thats not a clichee (else we'd be all f**king rich). anyway..

other great events for 2008. development. Now that slowly the uselessness of the production oriented economy dews in, development on itself is not the hardest point anymore. it became a matter of conscience. One might say 'awareness'. Environmental awareness basically. There is an environment where we can provide everyone with food , education and entertainment. But the lower the overall measure of luxury, the more chance we can afford it.

political turmoil. For the left wing it is important to realise that the mass, the general people, the ones that find hardship maintaining their existence, are not so much in a position to protest over remote wars anymore. The luxury is already gone.
We don't protest over vietnam anymore or a ridiculous wikipedia that claims kongo was a deadlier event. 15 years ago, i think, i told you that also the usual people would become very marginalised, and it is pretty much what has happened.

Friday, December 28, 2007

The tiger of pakistan.

It is not much good for a tiger, but the noble preposition,
I respect that woman. Also the joy we all felt, in having our tiger rule a nation.
That was a great day for humankind.

Ofcourse she has been the first in many things, and now with this war between the sexes also a war on terror, she didn't hesitate and chose for the half of people that would love her.

A real martyr, for a cause bigger then hers or ours.

Friday, December 14, 2007

klossovo

There are more important things going about then Klossovo, namely the climateconference at Bali. Basically however that is characterised by the absolute unwill of the proprietor class to commit to cost efficent economy, for mere short term private profit. Nations unwill to commit to a more tolerant population model is largely due to that. Unequality and pollution to a similar extend likewise. Attempts to make money out of every and even clean technology do the rest i suppose.

So instead of elaborating on unwill and profit destroying our planet, i would like to make a statement over the current european prospects. Hence this article's name "Klossovo". Klossovo is a very typical area somewhere in the balkans, traditionaly associated with the ever plundered serbia. People there; walk on clumps, have a very own religious hierarchy, shave, wear beautifull cloths, and are an overall joy for the eye ever since ivan the great.

Klossovo is the kind of place you'd like to stay a month or 2 to write poems , an excellent place for tourists. However recently Klossovo met tragedy, the Nato bombed this and that an god knows what, so perhaps there is not so much left. I think it also turned radioactive, so you can see it's concurrent position in the tourism market is taken serious.

Anyhow recently it turned into a US airbase, or two, and now it needs independance.
all these 00.3?00.000 people need exactly that , what the basques or the kurds in their millions would destabilise their belongings with. Presumably these nuts will be seated in EU parliament as well, and be in a position to help sabotage votes forever.

Nobody is going to notice anyhow.
Currently we have like 7 or 8 states around there, The one an even more pittyfull excuse of etnocentrism then the other. Theres just about enough "real" macedonians to fill one parliament... The only at them is that they are possesed. They own land, money or factorys and now people. Europe is choosing its voters in parliament with terrible sneakyness.

The nato killed a lot of people to get so far. Do you think they will let go of it?
Europe in a blind submission follows lead. Having nothing better to do each campaigner decides to campaign "liberation" ... it looks so nice.

Sunday, November 11, 2007

prioritys for pakistan

Actually it is very hard to accurately judge every or even much detail of the human rights situation in pakistan for me. However the picture unnfolding has quitte the charactersitics as can be expected with the different interests that are most urgent in mind.

Obviously thinking on the lines that pakistan would not move the army into afghanistan or in the direction of kabul, the only reality is that the north of pakistan is already politicised. So that is not a surprise, every actual calm or rest for the afghan refugees and their relatives or even sympathisers is dependant of just having something like a region where they are free from control wich so easily turns into persecution.

Naturally musharaf has only 2 options, acting up, wich is insisting on more plain military violence inside northern pakistan, or letting go for now and hope that things don't turn to much out of hand. It appears to be a sour procedure, in so far that the taliban, so in effect the populace, of northern pakistan immediatly grabs after the formal characteristics of her 'talibanship' again a very politicised attitude.

Perhaps they think: it is now or never, the possibility that the west decides butto will be her man, and the next thing is f16's in the sky we better have some space around. Or perhaps it is: we just don't want to have to do with that silly musharaf and his english in afghanistan.

Literally spoken the swat valley immediatly took over policestations, and implemented their representation through sharia law:) Wich puzzles me about the different interests of pakistani lawyers again.

Anyhow, there is no immediatly obvious solution, so i thought of the following,
all the nations once conquered by greece could join greece, and as a side-effect they would be part of EU. Now inside eu war is not allowed, so that is settled
and the situation in pakistan also becomes awkwardly clear, with the option to compare these peoples rights with these of the basques.(no rights)

However, since it might scare russia we will also include the kaukasus, ukraine, and russia. That way at least when we bomb these guys we have a decent excuse and....
I will finally see greece develop a european constitution for the perspectives of many people. Although they are orthodox, the greek, perhaps they can't handle the very physical humanist attitudes from northern europe to wich all people are supposed to conform. The ukraine can easily be included, and once belorussia gets surrounded they will probably immediatly surrender to Merkel.

that would be nice:) with turkey in europe keeps its original shapes, only a bit bigger, ofcourse we also invite lebanon, becus it is such a mess with funny tourist perspectives, israel, to proof that we emancipated ourselves so much that even if we can't live with jews we still do, syria, to save them from future agression, the kurds, probably for the famous 'basque' argument . in short everything that once was with alexander except what is in africa. That solves a lot of voting problems in a future world community as well, when they all belong with greece:).

long hm. rulers are like mortargrenades, hardly ever one falls on exactly the same place. That is why a child of a promising ruler has little promise as a ruler as a rule. I feel this strongly over northern african nations and want to make the point secure that I include european monarchist institutes.

likewise i think over bhutto, i don't mean to say that she can't carry any of her fathers spirit or that any child couldn't. Just that it is not a very fair merchandise, and all one is left is to look critical at advertising.

Sadly i am very sure all this is actually set up to divide the islam world and pakistan, politics get a bit shaky, turkey is reinvited in upon.. threatening the kurds, pakistan is (well i am glad it is) sufficiently modern to have a thorough discussion herself, and afghanistan? It's always been a part of europe, the greek never left, only recently they turned english. So for the afghan people the best choice as well is to join the eu.
That way the war need to be put to an end, since it is not allowed for eu members or foreign powers to have a war on eu territory.

This is a very light idea, but when i think of the nightmare it is for the average EU politian i get greatly happy:). Oh yes, oh barzir ... of the taliban yes.. i heard from my secretary.. how could that happen?
:D

It's a bit of a pitty for the parts of the ME alexander didnt reach, like that new bit of vulcanic island, that they will necessarily be excluded, however perhaps it is only the best solution that all these peoples of the books, get their stuf organised together for once. I am not so sure of that actually, i get reluctant to endanger india into invitee status, and i see how russia will have to say no.

well there goes belorussia:(
sobs;)
finally the nations of the kaukasus may rest to the heart of mother belgium.
(wich is falling apart:D, i hope they keep it that way, the eu is ruled from a nation that is falling apart:), good PR.

Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Kurdistan, turkey, pkk , oil , M-E.

This will be an untypically specific posting. Somehow i think all the fuzz over the kurdistan-issue is hardly warranted, whilst media persist in desinforming. If we don't stick to facts, and exchange these unbiasedly, nothing much will be gained, and kurdish again will become the victim. As well as quitte possibly some turks.
In general terms escalation might poison an alredi autoritair atmosphere in turkey. It would raise problems for irak and iraki kurds, and most importantly invites unnecessary death and destruction. On the background plays that every party might hallucinate an economic interest in oil by desorganising the kirkuk regions.

Major players... Maliki, he is a policeman and does not understand what is happening.
I don't know how people of limited scope become presidents, but Mailiki has only a simple and straightforward way of coping. The presidential quality to always seek solutions and negotiate he does not posses in matters of military calibre.
All he said is .. blah blah, attacks, terrorists, forbidden, allies, security.
Nothing in depth. But certainly nothing comforting kurds.

Jalabani: Jalabani opted to support the obviously somewhat justifiable turkish intend to get done with intrusions from without irak. This is a prokurdish statement, a general kirkuk statement, an obvious sign of negotiability, but also a bit of the easy way out, Jalabani may be aware like noone else, how unrealist it be that refugee (turkish) kurds, a 30 or more year history of the region, would suddenly shut down all activity aimed at turkey, let alone find way to disappear back into turkey and not be confronted with persecution and violence.

USA: usa opened the ball, by making a huge affair of the armenia case.
For me it misses relevance because it is considered as a single case, at no point in a year anyone but me pointed out what scarcity of food was abound over the region in these years, and other great deeds of inhumanity of that age are not related or mentioned.
A damnification like this can only be made after a complete and unbiased historical assesment and in a supra-national context. Things we can only dream of for now. Also when the USA blames the turkish over armenia, it does not dare to speak truth about the current turkish terror. Mostly i suppose because they use all the same methods, apparently they also exterminate villages in independish areas. People in the usa have no clue what is going on. (Not one coherent USA right wing posting on al jazeera). Apparently at the moment USA politics supports the turks , (something i can't understand well outside USA being an imperialist repressive state). USA public is crying outright evil over the kurds.("wishlist of terrorism" on the menu)
We should perhaps realise that a shared interest with the turks as a loyal nato partner gives promising perspectives having to do with oil. Something for wich you need no strong kurdish unity and certainly not a powerfull PKK. That would not support turkish or usa interests in irak and that would fight the destruction of kurdish prosperity in northern irak.

PKK: The more representative element of the resistance against turkish repression of Kurds. (like PLO used to be and Hamas may be a representative for the resistance by palestineans). Unfortunately for the PKK they are modern. They have no ambition to set up an archaic state, or some odd califate, they also have a marxist ideological background, apparently , since i myself never much noticed, and as such they remain under the coldwar protocol for terrorism (is that the reason?). The PKK has, i don't know how, managed to contribute to the fall of saddam and fight the turkish army,
for decades. At one point i think in the early 90s, it became absolutely obvious that the turkish army applied genocidal politics to kurdish areas, and what all turks apparently manage to overlook: that the kurdish culture was severely repressed and prosecuted in all it's aspects.
Discrimination on schools, no kurdish language allowed, and the ongoing campaigns to neutralise ever more of the areas inhabited by kurdish. Harsh punishments of prison and even torture in huge scale prisons for (kurdish) activists, and... in turkey you can also be prisoned for saying things the state generally dislikes. So the typical shapes of political prosecution and destruction of freedom of expression have been decade long elements of the turkish strategy. What probably is the reason for the militance of the PKK is that turkey manages to keep providing new levy's of embittered, scared and angered kurds.
Obviously by counteracting the genocidal composure of the turkish tenure the PKK has over the years actually helped the kurdish population a lot, or at least shown to try her utter for only that. I must say i suspect the last few years (through the irak adventure) the turkish attitude has become a bit less destructive, although i fear the repression of the individual may remain almost similar. I am not sure since i heard kurdish could have their own language at schools again, that would mean also the individual perspective of a kurd in turkey improved a bit. (a kurd would have like 60-70% more energy for schooling and education in other subjects, its hard to keep up your professorates if you have to be a complete autodidact in your major language)
Anyhow that and modern times , in the sense of non religious politics eg. are the facts behind the PKK. One reason people would not vote pkk inside turkey is it would be dangerous to openly sympathise, voting means you would usually also publically defend a such opinion(pkk in this case), wich would endanger your life. As such the
link that pkk is to radical/militant (to vote for) became subconscious. Elections show the will for peace of kurdish people, but when the kurdish vote something outside pkk they still vote for their independence. In that sense PKK is only living up to procedures more then other representatives, wich i suppose is why they have such great sympathy despite their non-conformism.


Irak: Irak wants nothing to do with this. Iraki kurdistan as a political factor is no exception. However within kurdistan the turkish attrocitys are well known and sympathy for the resistance is a very natural thing, not in the least because kurdish identity in irak could be a scary one under saddam. In that context neither iraki president said much revealing.(i think it shows ambitions as well)


Turkey: The turkish public is very biased, single tv shows can make them all shout obviously propagandatory outrage at once, on the forum of al jazeera.
So why is the turkish public so very biased? It is really complex. Firstly i think they are awfully badly informed over the scales of the repression of kurds and the counteractions. They seem not even to realise kurdish get no kurdish language schools, or perhaps they are bloating on their succes in the destruction of kurdish identity. Some would. So.. next question, why are turkish so embittered? This pitfall of demologics must have been armed earlier. When the turkish media let out the turkish part of the violence it was not hard for a turk to become somewhat bitter, over the kurdish resistance, also turks planned to kinda abolish their headscarfs in public buildings to join the EU, now i decided it was better if turkey did not join the EU. Not for any economical reason, but because they had not raised their populace above the headscarf ideal, in other words powerfactors wished to cling to islamism, wich was the better reason to respect the middle east nations in their geopolitical aptitude (whereabouts). Also reluctant operating towards ukraine and belorussia from the eu, show the same geopolitical score, it is not in the interest of the eu to (directly or immediatly) intrude geopolitically to entitys that have a different historical position. Be it (imperial-sovjet) Russia , Middle-east or africa, in effect. Also Turkey has a moderate or modern islam since ataturk, and it is not necessarilly bad to allow the turkish ideals to influence the region. At least it is something slightly different and often indeed turkey acts as an intermediator, an umpire at her best moments. So the basic reason turkey fought the kurds, is turkey doesn't want to seize the (any) land. All the talk about terrorism is only rhetorics, and apparently the nato has been supporting the turkish in their attempts,
else there would have been no need for the militant factions (the all-too-often socalled terrorists) to become communist mainstream.

EU: Perhaps comes up with something soon. EU has always been a nato partner ,
as such it is indulged with turkish politics, EU supports the USA "wishlist of terror" labeling pkk amongst, outside the predictable humanitarian effort and statements, i expect nothing much as EG alredi tried to show her sympathy for hamas, i assume it will try to push the usa for her responsabilitys towards the kurds. One should not underestimate the political interest of once again attacking a "communist" group with the label 'terrorist'. The US apparently informed her public that "Koordum Turkam delendum esse ". so that is what we may most reasonably expect to happen.
(might need check but ianss.)endpoint of that reasoning, oil.

Erdogan: And as such, the turkish political circles. Firstly i don't like they move their populace through onesided mediamanipulation, wich is way to haughty an attitude for me to like. Secondly i think they are populist and have the populist aproach of security, that kind of securty always adds up to fascist repression, they show to be so by directing existential fears of turks to the kurds instead of using those to emancipate modernisation. Whence structural political turkish interests appear: to stay in power, to manoevre the populace, so the suspicion that the iraki kurdistan oil has to do with the affair easily rises.
Perhaps also they try to settle things 'once and for all' , stubbornly refusing to see the reality of a federal iraki kurdistan and as such the impossibility to completely destroy kurdish identity in turkey. In a way this asking for attention is perhaps a way to induce realist talks, but only if the world forces them to. If the world chooses to neglect the kurds, the turkish will be the last to complain.

Me: I just hope some of these old misconceptions get cleared up on a worldwide scale.
i know i have not said everything about turkish ideals and motivations, and i am as sorry for the family members of all involved as the parents of the turkish soldiers.
Like more pakistani got sacrificed for the socalled war on terror then coalitioners,
i must unfortunately assume turkish and kurdish lifes are counted similar by major powers involved.



























Erdogan

Friday, October 19, 2007

there is no posting about beauty

beauty of not being there,
Ja wat kan i tell u abots posting for beauty?
Ultimate of persons, A single circle.
We that all believe in all.

conscensus is there about beauty.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007

A lost month, friends

I am not much busy with the legal case. Mostly because i did plan not to.
The month has been pretty much what i expected, so not very hopefull.
General voices and opinions gear the brakes, but, it is a rather financial workabout..

What i guess is happening. I am still all before introducing a law-precedence
platform. It could also function as an idea-bin. Ofcourse it is a bit related with promoting a broader and quitte radically different aproach of rehabilitation,
"reclassment" in the dutch technical term.( partly).

the general difference is to reclass also the law and society, and not only the mere social individual, victim and perpetrator, and that it needs a working concept, a target or motivation, that is to support these individual people and groups that get harmed through criminal justice.


thats my personal thing and how i can hold up its concepts.


Soo,.. let me move on to the general subject of this months historical events.
In the scale of nations, historical events are an everyday happening, in the positive, and in the negative, Does it even matter to people that we have surpassed productivity you might wonder?

ah i confuse politics and economics. Personally i don't think these concepts of hyped economy (production capitalism) are valid these days. It is merely a portable problem.

Eg. (historical event nr 4 or so this month), in burma or (event 5) korea,we actually meet 2 nations that don't have twintowers of files on guest labourers,
that don't so much have a hyped but rather a sustained economy.
And that actually apparently serve no real capialist concurention with china.

So not only in terms of powercircles, ruling class elitarism, a development is also a danger to the population, also economical fears remain quitte reasonable.
That it is on a background that the IMF forced the burmese into higher domestic fuel proces, while balancing that with exports, remains also quitte questionable.

Likewise , north koreans are mostly a political target, and victim, of capitalist policys. Their association with china, allows them the pace or better of the chinese economys , it is the international boykot that has hampered all else.

So we have a "thuisland" nation or isolated economy, opening up for relations with her former self. The rest of korea.

That it is somewhat bad all is due to international policy's largely,
Since outside Korea these same politics have easily and simply ruined economys and nations and their peace, (endless row of examples), a change of power cannot be regarded even close to a certain advancement. The opposite is quitte possible, that internal, or south korean or perhaps even chinese or french, english involve in matters, and that actually in a decade, when things turn out worse, nobody had noticed that they were not so sure.

Whence it is relevant to act restrained to such discomforted economys.

I missed all of the inspiration and most of the opportunity to write my blog this month for wich i am sorry. I am trying on.

Then Pakistan. Pakistan is *the* last years historical event.
Firstly: i dont care much about formalitys. The whole "can musharraf remain president? "bit is moot. The only real question is should or wanton?

generally i have no agreeance with prolonged terms of governmental leadership,
although i grew a bit more leanient through the ongoing show of incapacity, by plenty in the social interaction. In that sense, people like putin and musharraf that mostly achieved things through their personal inspiration, are the most likely for meganalomaniacism.

They'd have to cope with it anyhow. It is however wild, farfetched and naive..(or not), another argument not to support prolonged terms at all.

The real legal problem of pakistan is islamic law. When emancipating or developing pakistan, pakistani moves before, that are frighteningly counterproductive (1). At least, have shown to be so in pakistan. Me , i remember you; that both sharif and butto have been implicated in corruption. The legal, burocratic system and structure of their days has been ready to support that. I understand Musharrafs ambition to cope with international relations through his understanding of the colonialist english culture.

Otoh, musharraf is not fighting quitte a right cause. The question remains wether non-interventional politics would provide better results. And in the case of afghanistan you may wonder what anybody (the west or the russians ) wanted there anyhow. Apparently , now we are there we, have set out not to leave before they changed. Hardly in the sense of: because it might work, but more because we forgot there are other options, mostly i think it is an experiment in control strategys.

It is the control strategy of a ruling imperialist and elitarist, on the subconscious xenophobic class, paranoid perhaps in a local contexts, on the world.
And the experiment of the control of the methods on the ground. Everybody has their excitement.

The current problems (at least since like 2002) of Pakistan are most closely related with the problems in afghanistan, and in a more loose sense contrast with the sultanates and other dictatorships that are US most loyal comrades.
Perhaps tho have a better say on modern (moderate) islam then Musharraf. That.., i much wonder.

For me as a anarchist, or liberal, or humanist, islam (and every religion) is very unagreeable.
I hate indoctrination. I think if people should be indoctrinated into "good stuff",
it should happen through progressive information.
Wich would turn it into a subject, an item of the consciousness, nobody should be born into, raised into, let alone forced into a dogmatic. Certainly not a historical, largely antiquated control mechanism as christianity, judaism or islam.(2)
It's been a centurys long fight against myths and fairy tales, to liberate some western mind, from the limits of a thought,- let alone belief system.

I think moderate modern islam, could make a start with realising that.
If they have the better source , or code nothing could be easier then to start a more elegant application.

So apparently it doesn't, well actually perhaps they are still celebrating a liberation that needed to be preached for centurys.

Longer then with us, since antique and not only roman times.

iafaiac. it is up to musharraf and i hope he will start informing his ppl before working them in his outlets. He needs to be a president to be more secure, but ah..
it is not so bad to throw over a military inspired governance. It's got it's good points. otoh there is (if i place that correctly) salafists, probs not a neutral term, outing salafists appears tasty as well.

So personally what i don't belief is emancipating islam can be achieved through formalising islam in any secular sense.
needs work on the cultural relational aspect overhere, but check the medicationstatistics for 'privileged entry' jemenites and others. Here.

(1) it is quitte about liberating minds from indoctrination all.
(2) Hinduism is obviously more confusing then the more budhist traditions, in many places however hindus went through much of the schools of thoughts of budhism apparently. in fact their results in the sense of zen and tao , shinto etc. manhand a more realist perspective, although in many instances they are set out for control mechanism as well. It is not that i agree with tao or all shinto, it's just not the subject of the day. Can't help it but that i do agree with zen.
(checks again, at least it says salafISTS).

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